Baby Kate Courtland - transcript of 911 call

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911 OPERATOR: 911. Where`s your emergency?

COURTLAND: (INAUDIBLE) apartments (INAUDIBLE)

911 OPERATOR: OK. And is there an apartment number?

COURTLAND: Yes, it`s (DELETED)

911 OPERATOR: OK. Is that where you`re calling from?

COURTLAND: No, I`m at a friend`s house. I had to use her phone (INAUDIBLE) walk over there.

911 OPERATOR: OK. That`s where -- OK, so you`re going to be over there (INAUDIBLE) And who am I speaking to?

COURTLAND: Ariel Courtland.

911 OPERATOR: OK, Ariel. And you`re calling from (DELETED)

COURTLAND: Yes.

911 OPERATOR: OK. What is it you`d like to report, Ariel?

COURTLAND: The father of my child took our daughter. And I don`t know where he`s at with her. She`s my daughter. He has no legal rights over her. I was supposed to take her for a DNA test at 1:00 o`clock and -- for him, for child support. And he came over, and I thought he was going to give us a ride there. So we got in the car, and I forgot something in my house. So I ran back upstairs to get my keys. And I came back down, and they`re gone.

911 OPERATOR: OK. All right. So he was supposed to transport you to a DNA. Are you sure he didn`t go there? Did you call the courthouse?

COURTLAND: He -- yes, he already -- no, he already went there. His appointment was an hour before mine was. He had already took the test. He just does not want me to bring Kate there because he knows that Kate is his, and he doesn`t want to pay child support for her.

911 OPERATOR: OK. So he was supposed to give you a ride to the DNA test at the courthouse, right?

COURTLAND: No, it`s at the hospital.

911 OPERATOR: At the hospital?

COURTLAND: Yes.

COURTLAND: I want her back. I want to know why he took her.

911 OPERATOR: OK. And how long ago did he take off?

COURTLAND: Just now, five minutes ago. I`ve been trying to call his cell phone. He`s not answering.

911 OPERATOR: OK, what kind of vehicle was he in?

COURTLAND: He`s driving a silver Intrigue.

911 OPERATOR: OK, Intrigue. Do you happen to know the plate or...

COURTLAND: No. I`m sorry.

911 OPERATOR: OK. That`s all right. That`s all right. OK, Ariel, we`ll send somebody over so you can file a report, OK?

COURTLAND: OK. Thank you.

911 OPERATOR: Bye-bye.

Transcript: Daniel Dale, 15, dies of hypothermia - is stepfather to blame?

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SUSAN GALE: I don`t know what happened out there, I wasn`t there. I only know what I know from the minute that Daniel and Brian left at 1o`clock that Sunday afternoon through to the dreadful news that they had found Daniel but he hadn`t made it at around 4:30 that Monday afternoon.

All I know is what Brian has told me happened. It`s not up to me to find out the truth, that`s why we have the justice system. But I know that worst-case scenario is that Brian murdered Daniel, best-case scenario is that my son was left alone in the dark, freezing cold, petrified, with no comfort. That`s the best-case scenario.

DIMOND: Susan, This is a man that you have been married to for ten years, you`re still married although not living together currently.

What reason might your husband have for killing your son?

SUSAN GALE: I cannot think of one reason why Brian would hurt a hair on his head, not one. They had a good relationship, which makes this even harder.

I have never been able to understand why Brian would walk away from Daniel for any reason at all. As I say, it`s not my job to give the answers. I don`t know why.

DIMOND: Maybe Brian is telling the truth, maybe they got exhausted slogging through the swamp while they were hunting, they had their waders on, their long clothing on and your son just couldn`t go any further and Brian went for help. Could that be a possibility?

SUSAN GALE: Again, I`m not there, I know my son more than I knew Brian.

Daniel`s not a quitter. Daniel doesn`t give up. Daniel and I had the most wonderful relationship and there is no way that he`s just going to -- he`s not going to stand there and wait, he`s going to go, he`s going to try and get out of that place. He didn`t like to hunt. He didn`t like that.

DIMAND: Not a quitter. Now, Susan, I hope you`re OK with this, we have Brian Gale on the telephone with us now.


Brian, welcome to the broadcast, I thank you for being here. Tell us what happened that night? You are charged with six very serious felonies, including murder, manslaughter, et cetera, what happened?


BRIAN GALE: Thank you, ma`am. Well, we scouted the wild turkey. That was the whole purpose of the trip. We went the day before and we put out some corn for hogs and turkey on some private property that I manage.


DIMOND: Right.


BRIAN GALE: And shot the high powered rifles at targets at a range and we had a blast. And the next day, I asked him did he want to go and he said yes, and so we went back out. I knew there wouldn`t be any hogs on the corn, so I said we`ll do some turkey season is two weeks off, we`ll do a little bit of scouting down on the state property.


DIMOND: Now, Brian, you know what I noticed about your stepson, he was about 5`10" or so and weighed 117pounds so he was a tall, thin, lanky kid.


You left him. You left him in the woods all alone and I read you said that was probably the worst decision you ever made in your life?


BRIAN GALE: Yes, yes it was. But at the time we -- ma`am, it had got dark, Daniel couldn`t walk and I was having to carry him. And I made it -- actually the worst decision was -- I had made a fire when I was leaning up against the tree, he kept wanting to rest, I said son, it`s getting dark, we need to head on out.


I think he was just -- something was wrong with him and, you know, I said, well, you know, I started make a fire. I actually had a fire going and that`s before he ever got wet, before we got down into the deep part of the swamp. I made a fire and I started looking around for pompons and cut them. I knew what ridge we were on at that time. And I knew that the quickest way back to the truck was about a half mile through swamp. And this is a proper swamp, this is a very difficult terrain.


DIMOND: Right, I read about it. Very sloggy with your boots on and whatnot.


BRIAN GALE: All along the east coast of the United States, it`s probably the last wilderness area except for the okefenokee.


DIMOND: Now, Brian. I want to be sure to ask you certain questions because we are running out of time.


But let me ask you this, So you leave him at a tree, yet when they find him, he`s face down in the water.


BRIAN GALE: But, ma`am, see, when we started to walk to try to get straight to the truck, it was a straight shot, back to the truck. We had went through some actual swamp and I was having -- Daniel couldn`t -- he kept falling so I started -- I had to drop my steady stick, without a steady stick you can`t walk in the swamp because you`re going to be falling. So I had to carry him, I had to put the light in my mouth, I had the GPS in my left hand and we were under a canopy and it kept losing the signal and I was carrying Daniel, we kept falling and it was cold. And when I hit the water it took everything out of me the first time I hit the water.


DIMOND: What do you think Brian happened to cause him to leave the tree and be found facedown in the water when the rescue workers came? What happened?


BRIAN GALE: We were going for like seven hours at least six to see hours I told to Daniel and we made the supreme physical evidence to try to break out and the GPS, I regret not having a backup compass. I wouldn`t be in this position right now if I had a backup compass.


My first instinct was to stay at the fire when it got dark and not move and I regret that and I always will and I know that was my mistake. But after we made the decision, the commitment to try to get back to the truck and we got turned around, I had no choice but to keep moving with him and we got back too far to the southwest.

DIMOND: Right. Brian, hang on a minute. Brian, hang on just a second.

I hear the pain and the emotion in Brian`s voice Susan.

Could this just have all been a horrible, horrible accident and that he shouldn`t have been charged with murder?

SUSAN GALE: It was a preventable accident.

DIMOND: it`s very emotional to hear his story.

SUSAN GALE: I hear his story. I hear very much.

I hear the pain in his voice, I do, and I sympathize with him. He not only -- he feels like he`s a victim here. I have a life sentence, as does my child, my oldest child Christopher of never seeing my son again. There wasn`t a second of a minute of an hour of a day that I don`t think about how my son died and as I said, at the very best, he died alone, petrified, his worst fear was drowning in the dark.

DIMOND: Oh, Susan, I`m so sorry.

SUSAN GALE: And that`s exactly how he was left. 


SUSAN GALE: We were together for several months after this happened. But this just -- there`s so much conflicting stories and different elements.



I have every faith in the justice system, all the agencies. I just know that with due diligence they`re going to give this matter what it`s needed. We have -



DIMOND: I hear what you`re saying. Let`s leave it up to the law.



Brian, what I hear your wife saying is she thinks maybe you did something to Brian.

BRIAN GALE: I didn`t harm Danny. I had no reason to harm him. I loved Danny. I tried my best to save Daniel that night.

SUSAN GALE: I still love Daniel.

BRIAN GALE: But I failed. I failed. And not a day goes by that I don`t think about it. And I`ve second guessed myself. If I had to do it all over again -- the reason I left him was to go get help for him or to try and make a fire. I told him I`d be back in 15 or 20minutes, either make a fire or I`ll come back with help.

DIMOND: This is a family tragedy. I hope you can all get through it somehow, someway. 

Billie Jean Dunn arrested - March 17, 2011

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Billie Dunn in Jail - March 17, 2011 - KTAB TV

 

Mugshot - Mitchell County Jail - March 18, 2011

Billie Dunn being led to police car in cuffs -
Photo Credit: Katrina Paytes

 Billie Dunn being led to police car in cuffs -closeup
Photo Credit: Katrina Paytes

Calling All Angels

Dunn House before the arrest

Billie Jean Dunn speaks to Peter Hyatt on Bring Them Home Now -March 10 2011

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/11/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-shawn-adkins-speaks-colonel-monaco-from-patriot-outreach
30:00


Host:  Hello Billy.

Billie Jean Dunn:  Hi

Host: Billy are you on the air with us?

Billie Jean Dunn:  yeah

Host:  Hello and We are here with Peter Hyatt tonight, and it sounds like you have some background feed can you turn down your computer, Please.

Billie Jean Dunn:  I don't have a computer.

Host:  Okay. Are you next to someone with a phone that's listening into the show?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No <audible sigh>

Host:  Well we have a lot of new things that are going on, what's going on Billie?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I don't know.

Host:  We have Peter here tonight and I would like for Peter to ask you a couple of question?

Billie Jean Dunn:  okay

Host: Are you okay with that?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Not really

Peter Hyatt:  Would you be okay if I asked you some questions, Billie?  The first question I have for you is what would bring you onto the show tonight?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Because Bea asked me to be here.

Peter Hyatt:  To what purpose?

Billie Jean Dunn:   umm.. I think just because she needed to fill the slot and I was told we were gonna talk about Hailey and we were gonna talk about the search.

Peter Hyatt:  And do you feel like this is off-topic?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah.

Peter Hyatt:  Why do you think folks want to talk about you or about Shawn?

Billie Jean Dunn:  What was that?

Peter Why do you think that people want to talk about you and Shawn?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Because, I guess 'cause Shawn was the last one to see her. Shawn didn't go to work that day. and I stood behind Shawn for a little bit.

Peter Hyatt:  Are you still standing behind him now?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No!

Peter Hyatt:  Why not?

Billie Jean Dunn:   umm.. Just because I've talked to law enforcement a little bit more.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay. Has that been recently?

Billie Jean Dunn:   umm.. Probably about two weeks.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, Billie do you know that I believe that you weren't truthful when you were on the Nancy Grace show? Do you know where I stand with those things?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah, I've heard you said a lot of things that weren't true, that you misread me a lot.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay. Would you tell me what things are or not true?

Billie Jean Dunn:   umm.. Probably nothing you said was true. I don't really listen to you though. I've never listened to one of your shows.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, I have a couple questions for you that if you're comfortable answering, I would appreciate an answer for. Shawn expressed some concerns in his appearance that you would seek a plea deal. Why would Shawn be concerned about that?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I don't know. umm..

Peter Hyatt:  He said that it would destroy his life

Billie Jean Dunn:  I don't believe he did. I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt:  You have no reason to what?

Billie Jean Dunn:  To accept a plea deal.

Peter Hyatt:  No, what I'm saying is Shawn, Shawn said that if you were to accept a plea deal. He used the word destroy I think it was, that it would destroy him, destroy his life. Why do you think it would destroy his life?

Billie Jean Dunn:   umm.. I don't know. I haven't thought about it because, like I said, I have no reason to.

Peter Hyatt:  No reason to think of it?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Right.

Peter Hyatt:  You think that Shawn has anything to do with Hailey's disappearance?

Billie Jean Dunn:  <long pause> umm.. <Long pause> I don't know.

Peter Hyatt:  Would you be willing to go to prison for him or with him if he did?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No, that's ridiculous. You know what, If you thought somebody hurt your daughter would you be willing to go to prison for them or stick up for them?

Peter Hyatt:  I wouldn't.

Billie Jean Dunn:  Exactly.

Peter Hyatt:  What did you think about Shawn's involvement with the child pornography?

Billie Jean Dunn:  umm.. Well, I don't know what to think about that either, so, I mean, I know that it was there, I know that somebody looked at it.

Peter Hyatt:  Do you know the number of images that were found?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No, I know there were a lot of all together pornography, a lot.

Peter Hyatt:  Do you know that was 109,000 images what they called deviant images?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah

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Peter Hyatt:  Okay, that what that tells you and I think you should know that really well. That tells law enforcement that type of downloading isn't done easily. It isn't done quickly. It takes a long time to accumulate that, that is a massive amount. I haven't heard of that amount, anywhere, and I think that as long as you're willing to protect him that perhaps you're going to end up arrested with him. Where is you have a chance at this point to do that which is right and go to law enforcement and tell them what you know. Billie, there was a reason why you failed the polygraph, and they understand that, and people…

Billie Jean Dunn:  Right! I was just told that Shawn probably had something to do with my daughter's disappearance. I was just basically told that my daughter was probably murdered! And when I failed it, My brother failed it, Shawn failed it. No I didn't believe it!

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, when you take a polygraph, It measures your emotional response and then let's say you're really emotional about something like that…

Billie Jean Dunn:  … And I've talked to many, many professional polygraphers. Many. I've had many call me.

Peter Hyatt:  And what do they tell you?

Billie Jean Dunn:  They've told me all the same things. I shouldn't of been told that and then asked to take a polygraph. That's number one that came out of everybody's mouth. There's no way I should have been told that and then asked to go back and take a polygraph.

Peter Hyatt:  Have you taken another polygraph?

Billie Jean Dunn:  And another thing is anti-anxiety medicine will cause you, it can cause you to have a false test, show deception, not help you to pass it, make you fail it!

Host:  Billie,

Billie Jean Dunn:  What? What?

Host:  Billie, where's Shawn tonight?

Billie Jean Dunn:    umm.. I don't know.

Host:  Why is he not on the show?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I don't know! I mean, I guess you'd have to ask him.

Peter Hyatt:  Had you seen him in the last two weeks?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah, he's come by to get his things too.. <unintelligible>

Peter Hyatt:  Had you seen them in the last 48 hours?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No

Peter Hyatt:  You've not seen them in the last 48 hours?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No

Peter Hyatt:  If someone said that they saw you in the last 48 hours with them. They would be lying?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I guess

Peter Hyatt:  I want to ask you about the polygraph again if I could. What questions did you fail?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I believe all of them.

Peter Hyatt:  What questions did they ask you?

Billie Jean Dunn: umm.. They asked if I caused Hailey's disappearance. umm.. There were two others pertaining to Hailey.

Peter Hyatt:  Was one of the questions if you knew where Hailey was currently?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I think so,

Peter Hyatt:  And you failed that one?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I think so.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, And did you know that when you take anti-anxiety medication that's going to lower your baseline for answering questions whether they ask you questions about your address or they ask you questions about your daughter. It's going to impact all those questions. How many times were you given the polygraph?

Billie Jean Dunn: Once.

Peter Hyatt:  And have you offered to take another one?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah.

Peter Hyatt: And what did they say?

Billie Jean Dunn: umm..  They were talking about it because I was offered one from the FBI and I told them there's no way I'd take another one. And now I've told, now that I've told them I have, I don't know where I stand, but I would definitely take another one through, not from the same man.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, would you take one through the Texas Rangers

Billie Jean Dunn:  As long, yeah.

Peter Hyatt: As long as what?

Billie Jean Dunn:  As long as it wasn't the same man.

Peter Hyatt:  Would you take one through the FBI?

39:45

Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah

Rachel:  What is it gonna take for you to help law enforcement find Hailey and be truthful?

Billie Jean Dunn:  It's not gonna take anything.

Peter Hyatt:  You're not gonna assist in the recovery of your daughter?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Of course if I can I will.

Peter Hyatt:  And you spoke to law enforcement, you said, about two weeks ago?


Billie Jean Dunn:  Yeah.

Peter Hyatt: Why haven't you spoken with them within the last two weeks?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I have.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, when did you speak to them last then.

Billie Jean Dunn:  Today.

Peter Hyatt:  And what did they reveal to you today?

Billie Jean Dunn:  They didn't reveal anything to me.

Peter Hyatt:  Did you reveal anything to them?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No.

Peter Hyatt:  In all that you've gone through, and it's obviously been traumatic, what do you think was the worst thing that has happened?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Well, obviously my daughter is missing.

Peter Hyatt:  And since that time?

Billie Jean Dunn:  I really can't think about anything else but that.

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, because I heard you talking on a lot of those subjects on radio and I heard some real passion in your voice. Were there other things that have been bothering you lately?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Umm.. Idiot people's opinions bother me. I mean it just pisses me off that people think my life isn't horrible enough, lots of things bother me. That somebody I know could've hurt my daughter, lots of things.

Peter Hyatt:  You entertain that…

Billie Jean Dunn:  <Crosstalk> ..my daughter being missing

Peter Hyatt:  Okay, Are you concerned about Shawn accepting a plea?

Billie Jean Dunn:  No, I'm not!

Peter Hyatt:  Why not?

Billie Jean Dunn:  Why would I be?

Peter Hyatt:  Because I think that he'll end up revealing information about the deceptive answers that you gave on Nancy Grace, for instance. The deceptive answers that you have given on this program…

Billie Jean Dunn:  <unintelligible word "Every" ?> Stupid ass..

<no sound of a hang up, but perhaps the click of a mute button>

42:19

Bea: Peter, Peter, this is Bea, this is Bea. Billie, first of all, I learned some things today. I know that you've lied to me and I'm very upset. I'm just begging you to do the right thing. You don't have to.. Just do the right thing. Can you hear me Billie, please?

Rachel: Billie are you still there? Billie are you still on the line?

Peter Hyatt:  I think she's going to hang onto the sinking ship until it finally goes under and I think were going to see some movement in this case within the next few weeks, perhaps even before the grand jury convenes. And there going to be people and Billie if you're still listening. There going to be people on that grand jury who will see the same deception that everyone else has seen and they are people just like you and me that are listening to these things and it doesn't add up and there going to see the drug use, and they're going to see the child pornography. They're going to see the abusive environment that was Hailey's life and they're not going to be happy, and I think you have a chance to redeem just a part of your life even if it's just for David, at this point. Where you must be honest about Shawn and what happened and more than anything else, iIf you expect to gain anyone's sympathy anywhere you must let everyone know where Hailey can be found.

They know about the the New Year's Eve time, they know about the lack of searching, they know about the lies that were told, they know about the drug use. They know about the lies about meeting with Shawn this week. They know that you are a suspect and yet you tell people you are not a suspect. It's time to come clean. It's time to redeem whatever's left inside of you that still has any maternal instinct left. You owe that much to Hailey. This wasn't fair to her. She had her whole life ahead of her. I know that you've had a very difficult life. I know that you had a tragic life. I know that things happen to you as a child shouldn't happen to any child, but you must stand up and do the right thing at this point. You can't continue to hurt people and deceive. It's time for Hailey's sake. If you have any modicum of love for her, it's time.
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Clint Dunn on Bring Them Home Now- March 9, 2011 -Transcript

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http://www.blogtalkradio.com/bringthemhomenow/2011/03/10/bring-them-home-now-exclusive-clint-dunn-speaks-mssing-carla-cook-family

1:06:00
[Skip over extended greeting]

Host: Hello Clint how are you feeling these days?

Clint Dunn: Well I'm, I'm full of energy right now, you know. I'm still spinning my wheels. And just, I feel like I'm not moving nowhere, but I sure got my engine reared up and trying to do everything I can, trying to set up events. I'm also trying to get the word out to America about our children becoming missing. And that we need to do something about this. We need to change laws and we need to set stuff up. You know politically. I wish I was more political but I'm not. But you know I'm hoping to reach people that are, that can change some laws and revise some paperwork that's done on this.

Host: Clint can you tell me what happened in Dallas and what you learned?

Clint Dunn: well It really touched me down there because I mean, you realize how many people does this happening to?

Host: What was the focus of the conference?

Clint Dunn: this  umm.. Trafficking kids in America you know there's 100,000- 300,000 kids in America being trafficked every year. And you know this is a question that I had asked, and I've asked a lot of people and I haven't got the answers yet. I want to know how many kids are being recovered out of that hundred to 300,000 kids a year, how many are being recovered, you know, do you all know the answer to that?

Host: If you do not recover someone within 72 hours, it becomes very difficult to recover them.

Clint Dunn: That's some of the stuff that I looked up on it too, and that's why some of the laws they need to be revised because Hailey was pronounced a runaway for the first almost a week so they didn't even look for her. They, they was, they thought she'd run away. They didn't even care. So there's some laws that need to be changed, you know, during all this also. And you know, what do I know about Hailey right now? I don't know because the police doesn't tell me crap, so I have no idea. I mean, I have to, I have to go to the news and through the media to find out information about my daughter.

<Host talks about statistics of missing children>

1:11:38

Host: I have had parents who have lost loved ones who can't hold onto a job and end up on disability. It devastates their life for the rest of their life. They cannot function at all.

Clint Dunn: Not only them but their families and their friends also. I haven't got a friend or a family member that's ever gonna be the same.

Host: It affects you for life. Clint you have a valid complaint. And you have a valid reason we need to help find Hailey.

Clint Dunn: I'm so worried that she's been trafficked out of the United States, like you said, what's my odds in getting her back and you know what I feel is that I just have to let this nation know that we have to do something. We cannot ignore this. It's not population control. If that's what the government, government looking at it, probably, I don't know what's going on, why isn't the nation doing anything about this. It should be very important. I mean people can't wait for it to happen to them or to happen to their best friend, or to their little brother or something.

Host: There's been some things that come out since we last talked, the memory stick the pornography, the bestiality, how are you feeling now?

Clint Dunn: Well, somebody's gotta rot in hell, you know, and you ain't gotta beat around the bush with the questioning, you can ask me whatever you want. I know what's gonna be asked and that's what I feel somebody's has got to pay the price. Okay for that and umm.. The,, I mean I really  I'm so baffled about this. I mean, how has it been two months that they've know about this information and and still nobody's in jail. There's  a serious crime and they're letting people just just  live their lives and possibly do this even more. There's things about this case that baffle me so much. Why have they not done something about this and then plus specially if they think Shawn's the person that did it, They.. Put him in jail. That's, that's where they gonna break him at. I mean if somebody has got child porn downloaded on their computer. They're gonna rot in hell. And, But right now they need to be put in prison for a very long time.

Host: Who would that person be in your eyes?

Clint Dunn: See, I don't know, I mean, you know what I guess it's gotta be Shawn.

Host: Has your opinion changed about Shawn, since this is new stuff has come out?

1:15:20

Clint Dunn: Well When my daughter comes home. She's not going back to that house , I mean,  I got to say it like that, you know, but I, I got it. I pray to God that Shawn didn't do nothing. And I, I don't look at it a lot because when, when I, I think about Shawn wrapping his arms around my daughter's neck and, and doing some to her, you know that, that would destroy my life. I can't focus on that crap right now and and I got, I got to keep hope alive that Hailey's out there somewhere alive that, that, that something else has happened here. And so everybody's "what d'ya think about Shawn?" "What d'ya think about Billie?" you know. Me and Billie, We haven't been on the same page since this has started you know that's why were going through a divorce. You know ,we kept it together for a lot of years just for the kids, but you know, were not on the same page from the beginning, anyways. So I'm, I'm out here all by myself doing this. You know I don't have. I don't have I'm not with nobody. I'm not affiliated. I'm solo, is how I feel you know, I feel like I'm the strongest voice that Hailey's got and I'm just out there doing my thing.

Host: Why would you say wrapping his arms around Hailey's neck?

Clint Dunn: He, I was just trying to give you an example about some of the thoughts that go through my mind every day. Every day I , I think of the, the the black van the pulls over and grabs my daughter or, or, or this nasty guy that just jumps out and gets her. I mean I have so many things going through my mind every single day all day. It just consumes me and I can't let one, one in particular thing, what everybody else is thinking. What 90% of the public is thinking. I can't let that consume me, do you know what I mean if I did, if I let that consume me, then I would have gave up two months ago, I would not have looked for my daughter nowhere else in these fields in between Snyder and Ccity.

Host: I respect that. I know that no one can be in your shoes right now. You are the father and no one can feel what you're feeling but know that you have support.

Clint Dunn: I know I do gotta lot of love out there and I just I wish that I could show my appreciation to, to all the prayers and the support and just people that just walked up to me and touches me and that is you know God bless you . You know that are praying for me. I just want to thank all y'all. And, just and I'm on my knees right now, just given my appreciation to y'all.

Host: Did you take a polygraph?

Clint Dunn: No. No, I haven't taken a polygraph. They've told me from the very beginning that I'm not a suspect and they have no reason to look at me and I told them very beginning. Hey you need to do what you need to do, put me in the polygraph or do whatever but clear me that way. We can find out what's going on . But they've known from the beginning that that I'm not nobody to look at, so I haven't done a polygraph or anything.

Host: And where were you the day that she went missing ?

Clint Dunn: I was at home. I was in my apartment, and I didn't leave all day long. My back was, I had , had back spasms that day, my back was tore up. But I didn't leave the apartment all day long. I was there all day.

Host: Clint what is going on between you and Billie now?

Clint Dunn: Well, a week before the affidavits, these last affidavits came out, we got together we decided that we was gonna be, you know, real tight in the public's eye because were working on this together to get our daughter back and, you know, it just, it seems like, like she's standoffish a little bit and so, and then affidavits come out and we just haven't talked since. I mean It's, it's been like this the very first time. Also, when The first affidavits come out, we was starting to work together on this and the affidavits come out, scares me to death, so I don't wanna go nowhere. You know, what am I to do? I mean It just scares me to death, and there's some, some stuff going on that was wrong. And so,  I, I can't. I can't, really back her play up a whole bunch right there. I can't have her back a whole bunch right there, when she's got all this stuff going on and, and so I just separate myself from that situation and then and try not to focus on, on that having anything to do with Hailey too much, I mean there's no need for me to focus real hard right there. It's Obviously, the police are focused right there. Okay, so I'm trying to focus everywhere else.

Host: You believe that the police are doing everything they can to help in this situation at this time.

Clint Dunn: Man there, Like I said, from the first as a father I feel like nobody's doing enough. That you know I feel like I'm not doing enough that you're not doing enough. Of course I feel like the police are not doing enough. I really do. I mean, I can't lie. I'm not gonna beat around the bush. That's how I feel. So that the police are not doing enough I feel like they're mostly focusing on Shawn and they're not looking nowhere else, and you know, the first 72 hours, yeah. Your chances are bad. But everyday that passes after that it just keeps getting worse and worse. 'Cause after a few years, your kids not gonna remember you.

Host: What is your interest in the human trafficking?

Clint Dunn: That's, that's what I fear the most right now. Okay, that's I mean, if, if Shawn did something well then that's done with. Or if somebody done something then that done with if. If Hailey's runaway and she's in a hotel room, well that would be great, to tell you the truth I would love that, that to be the case. But human trafficking. This is where she has got a be treated ,treated worse than livestock she's gonna be hurt when I get her back. It's gonna be so hard to get her back to being normal. I don't know what's going to be going on and so I'm, I'm very, that's my worst nightmare is for this human trafficking now. OK that's how I gotta look at it. That's what I don't want to be going on and thats happening in American were all so blind to it. I didn't never know nothing about it. I didn't never even care and like I said, this is changed my life I will never be the same and I'm just, I'm gonna find out, I'm gonna find things to do to change, change some stuff here in America to make our children safer.

Host: You just went to a conference. What was the conference about?

Clint Dunn: You talking about Where I met Congresswoman Granger at the 911?
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Host: Yes

Clint Dunn: Yeah yeah, it was about human trafficking. You know They they gave us a lot of stats of human trafficking in America and how much it is happening in America, that we're not just realizing it. People think it's only happening in Brazil and Mexico and Russia. No It's happening here in America too and just more things need to be done. Laws need to be changed.

Host: Is that what led you to believe that Hailey's been human trafficked ?

Clint Dunn: Well, look at her. She's beautiful. Blue, hazel eyes. Actually her eyes change colors. she's got blue eyes. Sometimes they're brown. Sometimes their green. Sometimes their hazel. They really change a lot and she's got blonde hair. She's just, she's beautiful. She would be a pick for, for them, for that trade.

Host: What did you learn at that conference?

Clint Dunn: Human trafficking is the fastest growing illegal trade that's going on right now in the world. It's it's it's gonna they predict that it's gonna surpass the drug trade within the next 10 years, that it's gonna be a bigger trade than the drug trade. So, I mean it's really, it's it's growing really fast and we need to shut it down. You know I mean this basically what this was about. You know there's some big names there, some big football players. Leon Lent and, and Devon Wyman and there some great artists there like Kevin Thornton and I mean were all gonna I am working together going to other conventions with them, to bring this out into awareness in America.

Host: Great

Clint Dunn: I want everybody to, we need searchers at the at the Civic Center in Colorado city, you know bring your ID, be over 18 years old, you know, just keep praying for Hailey, keep putting flyers up and don't forget, don't forget about my daughter. And don't forget about other kids in America, this is happening to. And protect your kids.

Host: The military is out there looking?

Clint Dunn: yeah We have Fort Hood out here. Dyess Air Force Base is gonna be out here next weekend and we also have another base coming. Yes, were were were getting military involved in the searches over here, also. All the public and all these surrounding communities. We have had people coming from out of state. I mean it's really, it's what we need. We need a task force set up for this in each state. They can condition the case like this and set up a cabinet and search and be professionally trained to search and rescue, they can be called immediately.

Host: I totally agree.

[host reads off a list of donors to the search]
[host thanks Clint]

Clint Dunn: I love you all too, thank you. Bye

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